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Critique that counts

In the past couple months I've been talking a lot to friends, and those submitting to me about critiquing and what it should do. One of the reoccurring themes is that it has to be explicitly honest, and how the recipient of the critique has to create and maintain emotional separation from their work.

For the person writing a critique, it does no good to send a "Squee! Squee! Squee!!!!1!1eleventyone!!1!" email or instant message to the writer unless there is nothing that needs tweaking. And continually doing this, and letting it go on to the point where the writer submits something full of things you should have caught is like letting your favorite female walk down the aisle on their wedding day in a dress that makes them look three quarters dead, with makeup on that makes Tammy Faye's look restrained, the back of her dress tucked into her pantyhose and trailing toilet paper from her mismatched and dirty Keds. Seriously, if you think you're doing someone a favor with nothing but constant praise you're dead wrong and not helping.

On the writers part its a bit more complicated. You have to mentally tough enough to look at negative feedback and decide; A) Is this really a problem? B) Do I know a way to do this better or can I find or devise a way to get the result I want? C) How much do I really care about this particular item? And D) What other mistakes like this have I made?

And on picking your readers; send them something you KNOW is unmistakably bad every once in a while. Anyone who doesn't comment unfavorably about such things consistently is no better than a glorified breathing spell checker. And of course, you need to know what each of your readers strengths is. The person who does your line edits and says stuff like "What the hell did you use THAT word for?" may or may not be you best source of information on 18th century military uniforms Likewise, the math geek who crunches numbers and answers your questions on projectile weapons and mass to energy conversion may just be completely clueless about what the difference between a SSRI and a Tricyclic antidepressant and how either or both of them compare to Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors. This is fine, actually its probably better to have varied backgrounds among your readers. This way when people who start commenting on things they never before mentioned you know that something has changed and this should be the signal to figure out if this is a change for the better or worse. Unless you’re up against a strict and impending deadline it can’t hurt to take a couple days between reading the critiques for the first time and reopening the work in progress to internalize the info and let some of the sting go out.

The bottom line is; don't waste time and energy. If you're giving a critique, give one that counts. If you're getting one evaluate the information for what its worth, apply what you think is prudent and or needed and move forward.

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jleemoffatt
May. 29th, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
LOL I love the idea of sending out something that sucks just to check on the critiquers. It's a cunning plan worthy of Black Adder.
mzmadmike
May. 29th, 2007 08:10 pm (UTC)
So tape a tail to it and call it a weasel.
onyxhawke
May. 29th, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
Machiavelli was a piker.
tcastleb
May. 29th, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
I get this, and totally agree. But in giving a critique, sometimes I think it's hard to figure out how much of it is what really needs improvement, and what's because "I'd do it this way," which doesn't necessarily help and gets hard to leave out sometimes. (In fact, I've gotten crits telling me I should do this and this because they think it's a good idea, and it just makes me angry because they're wrong and it's not their story.) The trick seems to be finding how to point out problems and still nudge the story in the direction it should go and where the writer wants it to go, which is sometimes really hard to figure out. The crits that hurt the most are usually the best ones, and I'd rather have a crit filled with problems pointed out than one of the "Squee!" crits that newbie writers are so apt to give, because they don't help at all.
onyxhawke
May. 29th, 2007 06:53 pm (UTC)
Oh, its not just the newbies have this issue. I've heard of "pro's" who get complacent and either stop paying attention to their readers or stop having them at all.

That or the readers see them get famous and stop thinking they can contribute.
mzmadmike
May. 29th, 2007 08:09 pm (UTC)
I know you're not talking about me.

I do know who you are talking about, though.:)

I ditched all my first readers from Freehold when they told me Weapon was perfect! Don't Change a Word! A Masterpiece!

Um...no. It had several issues.

I got a new set of first readers, who were thrilled, and filled with trepidation, and scared but nevertheless told me, "This scene sucks, if I'm being honest. Way over the top. Made me want to throw the book across the room!"

See, now THAT is information I can use. And when opinions overlap on what needs fixed, we have concordance and are getting somewhere.
onyxhawke
May. 29th, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
Um, if the person it think you think i'm talking about is female... I think _that_ person has just written her schedule to tight.

If you think i'm talking about a male, i don't know who you think I'm thinking of.

I was just thinking of a general trend.
jongibbs
Nov. 14th, 2009 12:00 pm (UTC)
Great post! Thanks for sharing :)
natf
Nov. 25th, 2009 01:11 am (UTC)
(added to memories) ;-p
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